tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post6624078698914033265..comments2023-12-23T15:07:59.440-05:00Comments on Vicious Momma: Out of Balance?Rae Annhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-30094197349362531472007-02-07T10:29:00.000-05:002007-02-07T10:29:00.000-05:00I run a site devoted to letting famous scientists ...<i> I run a site devoted to letting famous scientists write and I can't get anyone reputable to write against global warming because they don't want the threats and to be the villain in every newspaper article for the next year.<br /><br />The science community is stampeding toward a conclusion and the latest IPCC report probably made it worse. </i><br /><br />This is awful! Is that peer pressure replacing censorship - where will that lead us.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-13420241294179540242007-02-05T19:58:00.000-05:002007-02-05T19:58:00.000-05:00I think most people in the real world are not caug...I think most people in the real world are not caught up in worries about global warming.<br /><br />Scientists don't want to speak out against it because they don't want the drama. I run a site devoted to letting famous scientists write and I can't get anyone reputable to write against global warming because they don't want the threats and to be the villain in every newspaper article for the next year.<br /><br />The science community is stampeding toward a conclusion and the latest IPCC report probably made it worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-37966107477548898952007-02-05T16:11:00.000-05:002007-02-05T16:11:00.000-05:00Hi Bee,
That's an interesting article. It could ...Hi Bee,<br /><br />That's an interesting article. It could be a valid experiment or it could have been designed to get the result they were looking for. Social sciences have to be especially careful about their experimental designs and such because it's so much easier to affect the outcome than in the hard sciences. I'm not accusing them of that though. The more liberal side is also guilty of using emotional appeals over rationality. It's very interesting. Thanks for tellling me about it!Rae Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-67154044051901853092007-02-04T18:45:00.000-05:002007-02-04T18:45:00.000-05:00coincidentally, I read just yesterday an article b...coincidentally, I read just yesterday an article by a psychologist who found that people who are confronted with thoughts about their own mortality, death, catastrophies tend to the politically conservative side. A technique that has been used repeatedly in election ads etc. <br /><br />In case you're interested: research results from a guy called Sheldon Solomon, see e.g.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2004/pr041025.cfm">Fatal Attraction: A New Study Suggests a Relationship Between <br />Fear of Death and Political Preferences</a>Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-82552164722396619182007-02-04T16:21:00.000-05:002007-02-04T16:21:00.000-05:00CIP, I think you are a little overblown in your co...CIP, I think you are a little overblown in your comment. Perhaps DH knows the processes that have been used to guess at those figures, and perhaps he knows that they are just that- guesses. Even "educated" guesses are wrong sometimes as you are so fond of saying about string theory. ;-) Some of us laypeople don't cloak ourselves in ignorance, but wear coats of healthy skepticism. So how is our skepticism any less valid than yours? Sorry, dh, to butt in on a comment directed at you.Rae Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-56123838364807179312007-02-04T14:26:00.000-05:002007-02-04T14:26:00.000-05:00dh - It baffles me, though, how either side can sa...dh - <i>It baffles me, though, how either side can say what things were like 100 or 1000 or 10000 or 1 million years ago. Who was measuring the polar icecaps in 1900? Who was measuring ocean levels in 500 BC? </i><br /><br />As long as you protect your ignorance you are free to have any opinion you want. If, on the other hand, you were actually to go to the trouble of finding out exactly what was learned about times past and how it was learned, you would suffer a double penalty: first you would be forced to think, and second, you might find out that your opinion is wrong.<br /><br />Better for your peace of mind to make the choice of Galileo's bishop, and refuse to look through the telescope for fear of learning something that shakes your faith.<br /><br />On the other hand, as George Bush is finding out, reality usually manages to get in the last word.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-76014071733663014472007-02-04T11:06:00.000-05:002007-02-04T11:06:00.000-05:00dh, it can be very confusing and contradictory. B...dh, it can be very confusing and contradictory. But at the most basic level I think it's really kind of stupid to think of the climate in "global" terms at all. It's just another way of the wackos trying to create a "united" and communistic world. It's just part of that "one world government" garbage if you extend it to its logical conclusion. <br /><br />Bee, I agree with you about us learning to get along with Nature instead of trying to change Nature. It's kind of like our geothermal energy discussion on your blog. I'd consider myself a "reasonable conservationist" in that I do think we all should try not to waste resources too much and to learn to live within the means of our local environments. Creating some kind of "global" regulations seems contradictory to allowing people to learn how to live in their local conditions. And then there's that matter of freedom. It's probably easier to keep things running smoothly when you limit everyone's freedom, but I just can't stomach that line of thought...Rae Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-90202663693526873772007-02-03T10:41:00.000-05:002007-02-03T10:41:00.000-05:00Hi Rae Ann,
it's kind of weird with everybody tal...Hi Rae Ann,<br /><br />it's kind of weird with everybody talking about global warming etc, I recently mentioned innocently we're overrating our impact. It's not that we force nature to get along with us, but we have to see how we get along with nature. Now everybody thinks I'm out to destroy our environment or something (me who I get upset if somebody leaves the room without switching off the light). <br /><br />One way or the other, I think one should disentangle the very real energy problems from the global warming issue. <br /><br />Maybe all that catastrophe painting is just a cheap way to scare people, instead of projecting the future of children they might not even have? <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12654452.post-17022107010113519412007-02-02T16:28:00.000-05:002007-02-02T16:28:00.000-05:00Really, when one gets right down to it, there are ...Really, when one gets right down to it, there are credible scientists aligned on either side. It baffles me, though, how either side can say what things were like 100 or 1000 or 10000 or 1 million years ago. Who was measuring the polar icecaps in 1900? Who was measuring ocean levels in 500 BC? Yet politicians grab hold of this and the MSM plays along and, if we're not careful we're signers of the Kyoto Accord (isn't that a car?) and at a competitive economic disadvantage to just about everybody else in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com